Ruby’s World – An Interview with Karen Baldwin

Terri Wingham is the founder and CEO of A Fresh Chapter, a cancer survivor, and someone who believes that we are not defined by the most difficult aspects of our story.

Written by Terri Wingham | October 24, 2012

Normally, I wouldn’t post twice in two days, but today I’m excited to be part of the Blog Tour for Karen Baldwin’s powerful book, Ruby’s World.

Baldwin’s extraordinary story reads like a suspense thriller as this resolute American woman of “a certain age” journeys alone to South Africa to teach Zulu children. There she encounters a stunning post-Apartheid culture complete with witch doctors, Zulu chiefs and brutal tribal traditions.  Baldwin’s account of her adventure in Africa is honest, moving, frequently funny, and always compelling.  Her writing is candid, taut and relentless, as waves of cultural tension build to an unforeseen crisis that tests her courage and strength.

Karen and I had the chance to connect over Skype and I knew right away that she is a kindred spirit and a fellow big dreamer. When I asked her what prompted her to travel to Africa to volunteer in a small village, she said that breast cancer was the catalyst for pushing her beyond old perceived limitations.

“If I didn’t have limitations, what could I do?” she asked herself only to learn she could do much more than she ever thought possible.

Ruby’s World has me staying up late and re-living many of my African Adventures. I can see why it has sparked so much conversation and why the story has become so controversial.

I sent Karen a few questions to see if her story might inspire you to think about starting A Fresh Chapter in your life.

1) What made you decide to take a leap of faith and travel to Africa to volunteer? 

I don’t know that it was really a leap of faith … at least I didn’t think of it that way.  I was eager to find a way to “give back” after surviving a heart attack and breast cancer.  And my dreams – always my biggest, loudest source of inspiration – delivered some pretty clear messages about me going to Africa.  It felt like a great opportunity to test my newly found strength, to see what I could really do on my own, to see if I could let myself “out of the box” of thinking small that had defined so much of my life.

2) What scared you the most about the trip?

Snakes … and failure.  I had read Barbara Kingsolver’s book The Poisonwood Bible (a fabulous story) and it increased my phobia about snakes.  While I was in Africa I got down on my hands and knees every night with my flashlight and checked for snakes under my bed.

And failure … if I was going to do something as enormous as go work with kids in Africa … I wanted to do a really good job.

3) Was this experience pivotal in shifting the direction of your life? 

Hugely so.  By the time I returned home, I couldn’t even imagine fitting back into that box I mentioned in the last answer.  Africa expanded my life in ways I never imagined.  I left my relationship and moved to Taos, where I had always longed to live.  Then I wrote my book – something I had no intention of doing when I went to Africa … something that had never even crossed my mind … something I had no previous experience with.

That would all seem like enough … except the story keeps unfolding.  In July, this year, my story came full circle when the Rural Women’s Movement of South Africa appointed me as their first American Ambassador.  Next spring, along with the RWM executive director, I’ll be attending the United Nations hearings for the Commission on the Status of Women.  I’m thrilled that my original intention to be of service to women and children is showing up in this way … something that didn’t seem possible after the devastating way my trip to Africa ended.

And at the time of this blog tour, I’m in the process of expanding my work even further … I’ll be making the announcement about it at the end of the tour.

4) What advice would you give to someone who is ready for A Fresh Chapter in his or her life but isn’t quite sure where to start? 

Don’t rule anything out.  Ask for what you really want, not what you think you deserve or what you believe is possible.  Say it out loud, as often as you can and to as many people who will listen.  Take one step at a time … keep following the opening doors.  And of course, because I’ve been working with my dreams for over 30 years, I suggest turning to your nighttime dreams as a source of wisdom … they’ll always tell you your biggest truth.

5) What is your Big Hairy Audacious Dream for your future? 

To be an influential player in the international arena of women and children’s issues!

6) What are your favourite words to live by? 

Know Thyself.

Following a successful career in civil engineering, Karen Baldwin turned her focus to her lifelong desire to serve the needs of women and children. She graduated from the Chaplaincy Institute for Arts and Interfaith Ministry and earned a certificate in Spiritual Psychology from the West Coast Kabbalah School.  After serving as a hospital chaplain specializing in neo-natal intensive care, today she is an author, public speaker, and American Ambassador to the Rural Women’s Movement of South Africa.  Karen is a mother, auntie, daughter, sister, and grandma, always searching for a way to make a difference in the world.  She can be reached at www.RevKarenBaldwin.com.

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  • Blog Tour Interview with A Fresh Chapter | REV KAREN BALDWIN • October 24, 2012

    […] can learn more about her BIG HAIRY AUDACIOUS DREAM and read her blog post about our interview HERE. […]

  • Karen Baldwin • October 24, 2012

    Thank you, Terri. It was wonderful to get to know you … your bold courage inspires me. You are truly making a difference for women everywhere and I will be honored to work with you in India.

    If any of your followers have questions about me, my adventure in South Africa, or “Ruby’s World” I’ll be happy to answer them here or they can email me at Karen@RevKarenBaldwin.com

    Thanks again !!

  • Jan Baird Hasak • October 24, 2012

    I wish I could meet you, Karen. Thanks for your insights. xox

  • Karen Baldwin • October 24, 2012

    Jan –

    I’m so pleased that you enjoyed my conversation with Terri. I hope you have a chance to read “Ruby’s World” and hear the whole story. If you have any questions, just send me an email and I’ll be happy to respond.

    If you log onto http://www.revkarenbaldwin.com/fan-page you can receive a free copy of “Unlocking the Dream” – the prequel to “Ruby’s World” that tells my journey that lead to Africa.

    If you happen to be in the Albuquerque area, it would be a true pleasure to meet you.

    Karen

  • Angelica • October 25, 2012

    Terri, what a great post, thank you so much for sharing this! It was very inspiring and I’m so glad you shared the question and answer section.
    Karen, I love when you asked yourself what you would do if you had no limitations and realized that you could do so much more than you ever thought possible, and further when you said “Take one step at a time … keep following the opening doors.” This is so, so true! I really thing we are all capable of so much and the universe is right there with us along the way. 🙂

  • Karen Baldwin • October 27, 2012

    Angelica –

    I’m so happy you’re inspired by the conversation. I know it can feel overwhelming to want to do something different in life, to want to make a difference in the world … and not know how to start.

    I find that taking one bold step … ANYTHING … leads to another and another. It’s as though the Universe recognizes your intention and starts delivering opportunities to your doorstep.

    So … would love to hear what YOUR first bold step is … or was … and how that’s unfolding in your life.

    Be sure to log onto http://www.revkarenbaldwin.com/fan-page to download your FREE COPY of my newest book, “Unlocking the Dream.” It’s a short story … the tale of how I got started on my BIG HAIRY AUDACIOUS DREAM.

    Blessings,
    Karen

  • Terri Wingham • November 2, 2012

    Angelica – Thanks for the note! Yes – wise words by Karen: take one step at a time and keep following opening doors”. That is all any of us can do. 🙂

  • karen sutherland • October 26, 2012

    dear terri,

    thank you for sharing karen’s amazing story – so filled with hope and inspiration.
    i can’t wait to read, “ruby’s world”, after reading the prequel. so happy for both you and karen that you found each other!

  • Karen Baldwin • October 27, 2012

    Karen –

    Thanks for joining my Blogosphere Tour. I’m having a great time and hearing from readers like yourself only makes it better!

    I’ll be eager to hear from you after you read “Ruby’s World.” It seems each reader has their own opinion about what happened, why they turned on me, and what it all means. I’d love to hear your opinion.

    If you log onto http://www.revkarenbaldwin.com/fan-page and leave your information, you’ll be on my mailing list and will hear the exciting announcement I’ll be making at the end of the tour.

    AND … we have a great promotional event in December for the Rural Women’s Movement of South Africa!

    Looking forward to hearing from you!
    Karen

  • stacy graupmann • October 27, 2012

    Hi Karen!
    I just sent a hello to Terri and saw this on her recent post from today. I just ‘tripped’ over her webpage and have since been mesmerized by a few of her stories I have read. As I mentioned to Terri, I too am a BC survivor and had to move back to America (from living overseas for 10+ years) for chemo/rads/treatments once I was diagnosed. It’s now almost 5 years after that dx day…and I have since tried to move back overseas and have come to realize that my new home will be Northern California where my twin, and her twins, live. I’m cancer free…but have 1/2 the energy that I used to have. I do still travel and love it. I have since started (tried) to write a book about my time in Afghanistan but have a hard time putting such extreme experiences to words. I have written a binder full of stories, tons of blog posts and about 30 pages typed but can’t seem to press beyond that. Any advice? I have thought about trying to find someone to ghost write…but others say I write good enough to write it. I just want the stories down…for my nieces (aka my daughters :)….but find emotionally I have much less energy for life in general, even though I am loving living this life!

    Thanks again for sharing above. It is good to ‘know’ others like me, loving this amazing world we live in, out there.

    All the best,
    stacy

  • Karen Baldwin • October 29, 2012

    Hi Stacy –

    Good to hear from you. I’m curious where you are in northern California … I spent many years in Walnut Creek, not far from San Francisco.

    I’m happy for you that you’re cancer free … sorry to hear that your energy is so low.

    I’d love to hear some of your stories about Afghanistan. Why you were there? What it’s like in the non-CNN version. And if you’re truly interested in having someone ghost write your story for you, or coach you through the process of writing a book, let’s talk.

    I hope you’ve visited my fan page – http://www.revkarenbaldwin.com/fan-page – to download your free copy of my book, “Unlocking the Dream,” the prequel to Ruby’s World. In it I share the dreams that prompted me to pick up and go to South Africa.

    Take good care of yourself. Looking forward to hearing more from you!

    Karen

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